L lab_rat_pro Member Jan 14, 2025 #1 stuck analyzing odysseus's actions on cicones... my interpretation is his quick decision to leave shows smart leadership, but others say abandoning men shows poor leadership. thoughts?
stuck analyzing odysseus's actions on cicones... my interpretation is his quick decision to leave shows smart leadership, but others say abandoning men shows poor leadership. thoughts?
R Reacce80 Member Jan 14, 2025 #2 his strategic retreat proves leadership - recognized continuing would mean more deaths. wise leaders know when to pull back.
his strategic retreat proves leadership - recognized continuing would mean more deaths. wise leaders know when to pull back.
L lab_rat_pro Member Jan 14, 2025 #3 @Reacce80 but didn't he lose men by raiding first? seems reckless
broke_but_studying Member Jan 14, 2025 #4 crucial point: odysseus called his men back THREE times before leaving. shows leadership through attempted protection.
crucial point: odysseus called his men back THREE times before leaving. shows leadership through attempted protection.
myAlgorithm3r5t Member Jan 15, 2025 #5 @lab_rat_pro remember context - men's greed led to disaster, not his leadership. showed foresight wanting immediate departure.
@lab_rat_pro remember context - men's greed led to disaster, not his leadership. showed foresight wanting immediate departure.
M multilingual_phd Member Jan 15, 2025 #6 my professor pointed out how odysseus balanced military strength with practical judgment. signs of mature leadership.
my professor pointed out how odysseus balanced military strength with practical judgment. signs of mature leadership.
W writeORdie New member Jan 16, 2025 #7 interesting how his leadership style evolves after cicones - becomes more cautious, strategic.
L lab_rat_pro Member Jan 16, 2025 #8 @writeORdie that's a good point! never thought about how this affected his later decisions
W westernblot New member Jan 16, 2025 #9 considering historical context - raid itself was normal heroic behavior. leadership shown in managing retreat.
considering historical context - raid itself was normal heroic behavior. leadership shown in managing retreat.
W Wendy_89 Member Jan 17, 2025 #10 fascinating parallel with modern military leadership - sometimes evacuation saves more lives than standing ground.
fascinating parallel with modern military leadership - sometimes evacuation saves more lives than standing ground.
theoryBuff Member Jan 17, 2025 #11 @Wendy_89 exactly! also shows how good leaders adapt to changing circumstances
myAlgorithm3r5t Member Jan 17, 2025 #12 look at his pattern: warns men, tries saving them, makes tough call. textbook crisis leadership.
theoryBuff Member Jan 20, 2025 #13 personal take: most impressive leadership quality was maintaining authority even after retreat.
myAlgorithm3r5t Member Jan 20, 2025 #14 this incident actually sets up his whole leadership arc throughout odyssey.
L lab_rat_pro Member Jan 20, 2025 #15 thanks everyone! this gives me way more angles to analyze than just "good vs bad" leadership!